Talk:Council Lands - Revision history

BetaNotus: /* Headings */

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BetaNotus: /* Winter Court Rule */

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Extractum11: /* Winter Court Rule */ new section

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‎Winter Court Rule: new section

BetaNotus at 19:15, 26 December 2014

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Gorgonzola: /* Headings */

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Gorgonzola at 13:39, 12 October 2014

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NotesOfNotus: Agreed with all that was said about references.

2014-10-10T16:06:16Z

Agreed with all that was said about references.

Gorgonzola: Link to Quote Template Demos =)

2014-10-10T15:14:51Z

Link to Quote Template Demos =)

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Gorgonzola at 10:44, 10 October 2014

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 '''Update''' Added a source parameter to Template:Quote, see [[Quote Template Demos|the demos]]. The source can be plain text or a link, thus you could also quote a NPC with a link to a NPC article. eg. ''-- [[Marna]]'' or ''-- small talk from [[Marna]]''. Any other suggestions welcome :)  (I'm planning to add icon parameter so you can make a nice "lore" quote from in-game books with the book icon). --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 10:14, 10 October 2014 (CDT)
 : All above looks good.  I can't believe I missed the > that was causing me problems.  I'll sprinkle some quotes into the articles.  Linking to other NPCs is something I'll be doing.
 == Winter Court Rule ==

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	--[[User:Extractum11\|Extractum11]] ([[User talk:Extractum11\|talk]]) 13:47, 11 March 2015 (CDT)		--[[User:Extractum11\|Extractum11]] ([[User talk:Extractum11\|talk]]) 13:47, 11 March 2015 (CDT)
		+	For now, I'll chalk it up to an in-game contracdiction. [[Fazzi]] is the NPC who I got that info from. I'll look for other references to the proper date.

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	I'm in the process of replacing some headers from H4 to H3. That was my mistake, mostly, in the earlier templates. In general it's a bad idea to pick heading based on visual, if we need to we can change the style of the headings. Now, on topic: to be "semantically" correct the article should start sections with H2, and then H3, H4 ... H1 is the article title (ie. top level heading) (cf. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Layout#Headings_and_sections Wikipedia's layout guidelines]). --[[User:Gorgonzola\|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola\|talk]]) 08:39, 12 October 2014 (CDT)		I'm in the process of replacing some headers from H4 to H3. That was my mistake, mostly, in the earlier templates. In general it's a bad idea to pick heading based on visual, if we need to we can change the style of the headings. Now, on topic: to be "semantically" correct the article should start sections with H2, and then H3, H4 ... H1 is the article title (ie. top level heading) (cf. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Layout#Headings_and_sections Wikipedia's layout guidelines]). --[[User:Gorgonzola\|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola\|talk]]) 08:39, 12 October 2014 (CDT)
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		+	== Winter Court Rule ==
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		+	Regarding "The Winter Court has controlled the Fae Realm for two years now. Their control will last for another 19,998 years." Eleme in the big tree says that the Winter Court has ruled for 102 years with 19898 left. Not sure if this is an in-game contradiction or a mistake on the wiki.
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		+	--[[User:Extractum11\|Extractum11]] ([[User talk:Extractum11\|talk]]) 13:47, 11 March 2015 (CDT)

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		+	==Suggestions or other notes==
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	==References==		==References==
	I'd just like to support you here because I can see why some people would question where the lore comes from, but on the other hand they have to realize it's just not feasible for the writer to add references everywhere. Especially when you use [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite#Multiple_uses_of_the_same_footnote named references] it becomes a real mess as you have to keep them in order and if you edit text and move it around they may break.		I'd just like to support you here because I can see why some people would question where the lore comes from, but on the other hand they have to realize it's just not feasible for the writer to add references everywhere. Especially when you use [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite#Multiple_uses_of_the_same_footnote named references] it becomes a real mess as you have to keep them in order and if you edit text and move it around they may break.

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−	I'm in the process of replacing some headers from H4 to H3. That was my mistake, mostly, in the earlier templates. In general it's a bad idea to pick heading based on visual, if we need to we can change the style of the headings. Now, on topic: to be "semantically" correct the article should start sections with H2, and then H3, H4 ... H1 is the article title (ie. top level heading). --[[User:Gorgonzola\|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola\|talk]]) 08:39, 12 October 2014 (CDT)	+	I'm in the process of replacing some headers from H4 to H3. That was my mistake, mostly, in the earlier templates. In general it's a bad idea to pick heading based on visual, if we need to we can change the style of the headings. Now, on topic: to be "semantically" correct the article should start sections with H2, and then H3, H4 ... H1 is the article title (ie. top level heading) (cf. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Layout#Headings_and_sections Wikipedia's layout guidelines]). --[[User:Gorgonzola\|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola\|talk]]) 08:39, 12 October 2014 (CDT)

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	'''Update''' Added a source parameter to Template:Quote, see [[Quote Template Demos\|the demos]]. The source can be plain text or a link, thus you could also quote a NPC with a link to a NPC article. eg. ''-- [[Marna]]'' or ''-- small talk from [[Marna]]''. Any other suggestions welcome :) (I'm planning to add icon parameter so you can make a nice "lore" quote from in-game books with the book icon). --[[User:Gorgonzola\|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola\|talk]]) 10:14, 10 October 2014 (CDT)		'''Update''' Added a source parameter to Template:Quote, see [[Quote Template Demos\|the demos]]. The source can be plain text or a link, thus you could also quote a NPC with a link to a NPC article. eg. ''-- [[Marna]]'' or ''-- small talk from [[Marna]]''. Any other suggestions welcome :) (I'm planning to add icon parameter so you can make a nice "lore" quote from in-game books with the book icon). --[[User:Gorgonzola\|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola\|talk]]) 10:14, 10 October 2014 (CDT)
	: All above looks good. I can't believe I missed the > that was causing me problems. I'll sprinkle some quotes into the articles. Linking to other NPCs is something I'll be doing.		: All above looks good. I can't believe I missed the > that was causing me problems. I'll sprinkle some quotes into the articles. Linking to other NPCs is something I'll be doing.
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		+	==Headings==
		+	I'm in the process of replacing some headers from H4 to H3. That was my mistake, mostly, in the earlier templates. In general it's a bad idea to pick heading based on visual, if we need to we can change the style of the headings. Now, on topic: to be "semantically" correct the article should start sections with H2, and then H3, H4 ... H1 is the article title (ie. top level heading). --[[User:Gorgonzola\|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola\|talk]]) 08:39, 12 October 2014 (CDT)

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	'''Update''' Added a source parameter to Template:Quote, see [[Quote Template Demos\|the demos]]. The source can be plain text or a link, thus you could also quote a NPC with a link to a NPC article. eg. ''-- [[Marna]]'' or ''-- small talk from [[Marna]]''. Any other suggestions welcome :) (I'm planning to add icon parameter so you can make a nice "lore" quote from in-game books with the book icon). --[[User:Gorgonzola\|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola\|talk]]) 10:14, 10 October 2014 (CDT)		'''Update''' Added a source parameter to Template:Quote, see [[Quote Template Demos\|the demos]]. The source can be plain text or a link, thus you could also quote a NPC with a link to a NPC article. eg. ''-- [[Marna]]'' or ''-- small talk from [[Marna]]''. Any other suggestions welcome :) (I'm planning to add icon parameter so you can make a nice "lore" quote from in-game books with the book icon). --[[User:Gorgonzola\|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola\|talk]]) 10:14, 10 October 2014 (CDT)
		+	: All above looks good. I can't believe I missed the > that was causing me problems. I'll sprinkle some quotes into the articles. Linking to other NPCs is something I'll be doing.

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 I'd just like to support you here because I can see why some people would question where the lore comes from, but on the other hand they have to realize it's just not feasible for the writer to add references everywhere. Especially when you use [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite#Multiple_uses_of_the_same_footnote named references] it becomes a real mess as you have to keep them in order  and if you edit text and move it around they may break.
-Perhaps one way to emphasize the source of the lore would be to sprinkle the article with a few choice quotes from NPCs or in-game books, with [[Template:Quote]], where a vebratim quotation of in-game text fits within the section you are writing. If you need improvements to that template I can do them now since Eric added a powerful extension, so we can have optional parameters like the source of the citation. For example in [http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Scarab_Plague this GW1 lore] there's no references anywhere, but the "Surviving documents" gives a sense of the in-game source. (edit: well you could say that ''is'' their reference).
+Perhaps one way to emphasize the source of the lore would be to sprinkle the article with a few choice quotes from NPCs or in-game books, with [[Template:Quote]], where a verbatim quotation of in-game text fits. If you need improvements to that template I can do them now since Eric added a powerful extension, so we can have optional parameters like the source of the citation. For example in [http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Scarab_Plague this GW1 lore] there's no references anywhere, but the "Surviving documents" gives a sense of the in-game source. (edit: well you could say that ''is'' their reference).
 On the other hand I like to use refs to link to developer blog posts and in this case you could use them to link back to the lore articles available from the official site. (meaning, the reference also provide further resources to browse).
-Anyway just trying to come to your defense a little bit and to be realistic. It is a lot of work already to compile and edit the lore! --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 05:40, 10 October 2014 (CDT)
+'''Update''' Added a source parameter to Template:Quote, see [[Quote Template Demos|the demos]]. The source can be plain text or a link, thus you could also quote a NPC with a link to a NPC article. eg. ''-- [[Marna]]'' or ''-- small talk from [[Marna]]''. Any other suggestions welcome :)  (I'm planning to add icon parameter so you can make a nice "lore" quote from in-game books with the book icon). --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 10:14, 10 October 2014 (CDT)

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	Anyway just trying to come to your defense a little bit and to be realistic. It is a lot of work already to compile and edit the lore! --[[User:Gorgonzola\|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola\|talk]]) 05:40, 10 October 2014 (CDT)		Anyway just trying to come to your defense a little bit and to be realistic. It is a lot of work already to compile and edit the lore! --[[User:Gorgonzola\|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola\|talk]]) 05:40, 10 October 2014 (CDT)
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		+	PS: yeah I'll see if I can improve Quote so you can have eg. ''--small talk from [[Marna]]'' at the end of a quote. Let me know if you like that idea or have other ideas for quoting in-game lore. --[[User:Gorgonzola\|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola\|talk]]) 05:47, 10 October 2014 (CDT)