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==Welcome==Welcome, and thanks for helping out :)--[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 11:08, 29 September 2014 (CDT)
Btw, I meant to say thanks for the [[Sanja]] and [[Jace Soral]] additions, really nice! Hmm this just got me thinking, would it make sense to have a category for Beast friendly NPCs? We could pull a list with DPL tag on the beast form pages. Though I don't know myself if beast friendly NPCs talk to all beasts or only certain kinds. --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 05:15, 12 October 2014 (CDT) :It isn't uniform between them. For example, I know that Mushroom Jack, the Hogan'About categoriess Keep goblins, Azalak, etc. all speak to all beast form players, however Suspicious Cow only speaks to Deer, Pigs, and Cows, and I'm fairly certain Sanja only speaks to Wolves (It was full moon when I last spoke to her, so I couldn't check). No doubt there are other exceptions I haven't found yet. [[User:Karunama|Karunama]] ([[User talk:Karunama|talk]]) 15:39, 12 October 2014 (CDT) ==Categories==Note that categories like "Mushrooms" may limit our ability later to index various item types, but that depends on how much is really worthwhile to index. To be honest I did the "Likes" categories mostly to learn how they work. Atm I usually just "/wiki spoons" for example, and the wiki search will give me the relevant NPCs due to the text search. So atm I just don't know what is going to be the use for them, but I am not at all experienced in MediaWiki so maybe I am missing something. One idea in the longer term would be to add little icons next to the items in the "Small Talk" section, and clicking those will go to the category page, showing other NPCs that like the similar item. --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 08:44, 2 October 2014 (CDT)
PS: Oh I see what you did there with the [[:Category:Likes]] page, good idea :) --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 08:50, 2 October 2014 (CDT)
==Zone pages & monster statsNPC Shop Icons==If Hi guys. I think the basic Shop icons templating is ready for use. See [[NPC Template]] and [[Item Icons Guide]]. Many icons are reused in-game so a lot of items in shop listings should be covered. We will just add icons over time whenever the fancy arise :) I have some ideas to make it easier to create those shop listings (with a little script).. but for now that's how it works. IF you have somehow want more data on the shop, msg me in-game (Gorgonzola), or post on my page, or post on the energy [[Talk:NPC Template]] I should see it. Currently you can see one idea for Lucky Belt is I used a ABBR tag to add invividual pages put the skills in the tooltip. There's always compromises to many foes be made, I think it would be better icons make the shop list easier to edit their stats scan, and is worth the extra space. Having those icons also gives us other possibilities, for example see [[Sword#Equipment]]. --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 16:31, 6 October 2014 (armor/health/powerCDT) ==Creature Type Pages==Hi Karu, as well as discussed I'm wondering how to handle the creature types. (you seemed to have interest in that part of the wiki). Atm creature type more or less equals in-game Anatomy knowledge inside their relevant classification right? Thats probably the more logical way to go. So we have "Arthropod", "Fungoid", "Goblin", etc. First I would suggest to make new pages for several reasons, reather than use the Category Page themselves. [http:* The stats will be duplicated between //wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Arachnid Here is an example from GWW Arachnids]. Perhaps on that page you can list the parent Anatomy XP you wanted to? On this pagewe can make an automatic list with DPL tag. The ones we don't have an article yet, we can just manually list them in that page so we don't forget about it. I would do just like GWW and monster use a simple page name: "Fungoid", "Goblin", "Giant", "Plant" ,etc. If needed later we can add the anatomy pages(the sub skills), requiring more edits so eg. "Dinosaur" is the creature type, and "Dinosaur Anatomy" would be a skill page (if we ever want to document these). Only too generic name I can see is "Plant" ("Biting Vine"s in Sun Vale). For Therese, you used [[:Category:Plants]] (plural) as the future Likes category, so there is no collision there. Let me know what you think. --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 20:32, 6 October 2014 (CDT) So to clarify I propose to make these pages named exactly: Aberration, Arthropod, Bear and Bugbear, Canine, etc. (also keep exactly as written in the in mind some of -game anatomy sub-skills). I fixed "Dinosaurs" (Dinosaur) and "Ruminant Ungulate" (Ruminant) as these general foes may very well appear in more zones didn't correspond to the in -game skills pane. All these pages are non-plural (unlike the future"Likes" categories). If you're fine with that, thus further increasing the number feel free to go ahead with any of places we have to update themthese pages. --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 20:45, 6 October 2014 (CDT).* <strike>: I went ahead and created a few pages to get a better idea of how that would work. As you mentioned that you planned to "make a nice little stats template with Armor/Health/Power icons(anatomy) page link to the relevant creature anatomy info".. I will edit it edited a few links in there. So you can see the general picture: Anatomy sub-skills table links to the creature type pages("Aberration", but they won"Undead", etc). Hopefully that't work in s what you meant. On each creature type page I put a small mention of the zone Autopsy Kit (links back to Anatomy page). Those pages use DPL tag to list the currently categorized creatures. The other ones we can add manually for whenever we feel like adding the page later (the red links can act as a todo list basically, eg. in the table format[[Plant]] I put one I found that I don't have time to document atm)</strike> DONE . If you have ideas for this page feel free to make something like [[Creature Type Template]] so we can decide on a structure there? --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:MOB infoboxGorgonzola|talk]]) 15:57, 7 October 2014 (CDT) * Helps trim down : PS: As you can see I used the in-game Anatomy sub-skills description to get a basic intro for the zones page. --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 16:00, 7 October 2014 (CDT) ==Beast Form Pages==Regarding your recent edit of Spider Form. Actually I think it would make sense to use "Pig Form" or maybe "Pig (beast form)". When I started editing here, there was already "Cow Form", which seemed logical. But then there is "Lycanthropy" instead of "Werewolf Form"... Personally I would prefer to have consistent "Animal Form" page names, as the Deer, Pig, Spider are too generic articles and intuitively sound like the basic creature or type. Let me know what if you want you can go ahead making the "xxx Form" pages which and moving content there, and blank the ones behind. I know a player may grow long and unwieldy over time/wiki spider ... In that case I would suggest to add to the intro of the basic creature "A player can turn into (animal), see [[animal Form]]". How's that sound? --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 05:04, 7 October 2014 (CDT) * And most importantly imho:I agree that it should be internally consistent, this gives so if I was going to consider the option for people best way to reveal more at their own discretiondo it, by following the link IMHO it would be [[Spider (ieSkill)]]. That way Lycanthropy and the further away from the main pagevarious beast forms stay heterogenous, both with themselves and all the more detailsother battle skills. [[User:Karunama|Karunama]] ([[User talk:Karunama|talk]]) 07:14, kind of a spoiler hierarchy7 October 2014 (CDT).
:: Btw, if you blank out a page sometimes and don't know what to do with it, you can use <code>#REDIRECT [[pagename]]</code> to make it into a redirect. (presumably that does the exact same thing as "Move", it is not possible to truly move a page it seems, or not obvious at all). --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 08:09:52, 3 7 October 2014 (CDT)
: Hmm. I now realize certain creatures like [[Skeleton Archer]] may use different stats depending where they spawn. So I see two solutions here: 1) if tis is really necessary (I think it's overkill and documenting for documenting's sake, imho, which is pointless) we can document the stats in the body article, for each zone the mob appears in. I'm definitely not going to bother doing that in alpha, and I'd like to save my sanity. 2) Much more reasonable imho is to document the Armor/Health/Rage only for named creatures, in the [[Template:MOB infobox]]. This is simpler, and it's also useful, whereas documenting stats of a sickly wolf is pretty pointlesss Definitely Lycanthropy (imhoSkill) and a waste of our time (AND, personally if I do something I'd like to do it well.. if we want to document every single mob That's stats, it's going to be endless work, so how itappears in the game's only going to be half-done workskill tab, whereas documenting after all the boss type creatures is totally doable during alpha).<br><br>(Let's make a small, but coherent and useful wiki, rather than one that adds up pages, half of them near empty of substance and being of no interest to the player.)<br><br>So for the general creatures I will look at the template and see that the Armor/Health/Rage is only optional so it can show only for the bosses (otherwise it will be incorrect as I explained as certain basic monsters exist in various "strengths"). --[[User:GorgonzolaKarunama|GorgonzolaKarunama]] ([[User talk:GorgonzolaKarunama|talk]]) 1611:4502, 3 7 October 2014 (CDT)
