==Regarding Quest Information on NPC CategoriesPages==The basic categories I'm using atm. Feel free d love to make suggestions or criticism I am by all means a WikiMedia beginnerhear any thoughts from folks about simplifying the ''Quests'' subheading on NPC pages.My initial thoughts and reasonings are below:

<pre>Currently the same information is manually edited in two locations.[[Category:NPCs]] (#On the page containing the top level category)quest information itself [[Category#On the NPC page - if up to template standards that includes five pieces of information:Serbule NPCs]] Favor, Objective, Reward spoiler, Requirements and Hints. This creates a duplication of work for wiki maintainers working on both pages, and leads to a situation where information may conflict (within a given zoneif one of the two locations is out of date) [[Category:Crypt NPCs]] . On an aesthetic note, the spoilers have always looked off to me in this section (within a given dungeonbeing non-indented both in heading and expanded - as well as bold when quest names are not) etc.</pre>

Note that I have started using these categories with DynamicPageLists in 'd like to propose the Zone articles! Thus adding following:#Switch Quests subheading to be a new NPC DPL object pointing to Serbule NPCs category will automatically show up under "Friendly NPCs" of the relevant Zone. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;[httpCategory:Quests//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SignaturesNPC Quests#How_to_sign_your_posts Unsigned] comment added Remove spoilers, hints, rewards and requirements from the NPC page (achieved by [[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]] • [[Special:Contributionsusing DPL instead of manually editing/Gorgonzola|contribs]]linking quests pages) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

==Proposed Changes==This would achieve:Should we have a category or some other notation for NPCs who will/won't talk #A cleaner look to players in beast forms? [[User:Karunama|Karunama]] ([[User talk:Karunama|talk]]) 01:54, 7 October 2014 (CDT): I don't have [[Beast Forms]] gameplay experience, but it makes sense if it is not super obvious in-game. So you mean like eg. the Suspicious Cow in Eltibule? Well if we have quest subheading for NPC'''a category''' something like "Beast Form Friendly NPCs" then we can make a DPL s (DynamicPageList) listing within [[Beast Forms]]. But... is it the case that some talk to spider but not wolf, some talk to wolf but not cow , etc? (I don't know). If not, then the category makes sense. Next we could potentially add that to a future [[Template:NPC infobox]] eg. "Talks to Beasts" yes/no. Until then, we can add it to the look and information on NPC pages so we don't forget. I think it would fit in the intro text? Another sentence "John Doe talks to players in [[Beast Forms[Beast Form]]" as it will be high up the page, and it won't clog most pages (I think it's limited to a few NPCsstandardized). We could also add a section only on relevant NPCs. I prefer #IMO aesthetics of NPC pages would improve by removing the extra sentence so we don't needlessly lengthen spoiler blocks#Decrease the NPC pages workload for this small info. In time, we can move this info maintainers by removing the need to the "NPC infobox" duplicate information (another sidebar "info card" thingyand verify duplicate information)#Centralizes all quest information on the quest page. But either way is finefor a given quest. Cheers --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 04:48, 7 October 2014 (CDT)

==Shop Table Layout This could impact users:#Users who come to the wiki looking for a specific quest by name would likely not be impacted (new template with iconslanding directly on the Quest page)==Btw, I realize now there is no column for Favor. It sounds like favor is often a requirement and #Users who land on the NPC page first ''may be worth documenting. On '' have one additional click to access the other hand I think you soon realize as a player, that nearly everything information##Sort of value is going to be locked with favor anyway. But that's just me. For the time being. users have to click Expand for spoilers, and many quest on NPC pages don't worrycontain spoilers, objectives or hints.. with  Now is a good time for this template formatchange because:#Except for Druid quests, it is only a matter of adding a new parameterall quests pages on the wiki have recently been updated/uploaded, if we ''really'' need to add favor as a columnfollowing the standardized quest template.#All quests now contain categories for location (i. we can do ite. Just i'd rather focus on other priorities as long as it works reasonably wellSerbule, Eltibule) and NPC who initiates the quest. The template can accomodate any number This allows for the first time use of rows. It allows DPL to make complex formatting of table rows generate quests list (See [[Chirrra]] for an example) Thoughts? I'll look for comments for ~week or so, and unless there is consensus against (or the admins say no!) I'll proceed with little code in the articlethis proposed change and update NPC pages accordingly. --[[User:GorgonzolaKedoch|GorgonzolaKedoch]] ([[User talk:GorgonzolaKedoch|talk]]) 0814:1649, 7 October 2014 11 April 2018 (CDTEDT)