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==Welcome==Welcome, and thanks for helping out :)--[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 11:08, 29 September 2014 (CDT)

'''About categories'''. Note that categories like "Mushrooms" may limit our ability later to index various item typesBtw, but that depends on how much is really worthwhile to index. To be honest I did the "Likes" categories mostly meant to learn how they work. Atm I usually just "/wiki spoons" say thanks for examplethe [[Sanja]] and [[Jace Soral]] additions, and the wiki search will give really nice! Hmm this just got me the relevant thinking, would it make sense to have a category for Beast friendly NPCs due to ? We could pull a list with DPL tag on the text searchbeast form pages. So atm Though I just don't know what is going myself if beast friendly NPCs talk to be the use for them, but I am not at all experienced in MediaWiki so maybe I am missing something. One idea in the longer term would be to add little icons next to the items in the "Small Talk" section, and clicking those will go to the category page, showing other NPCs that like the similar itembeasts or only certain kinds. --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 0805:4415, 2 12 October 2014 (CDT)

PS: Oh It isn't uniform between them. For example, I see what you did there with know that Mushroom Jack, the [[:Category:Likes]] pageHogan's Keep goblins, Azalak, etc. all speak to all beast form players, however Suspicious Cow only speaks to Deer, Pigs, and Cows, and I'm fairly certain Sanja only speaks to Wolves (It was full moon when I last spoke to her, good idea :so I couldn't check) --. No doubt there are other exceptions I haven't found yet. [[User:GorgonzolaKarunama|GorgonzolaKarunama]] ([[User talk:GorgonzolaKarunama|talk]]) 0815:5039, 2 12 October 2014 (CDT)

==Zone pages & monster statsCategories==If you have the energy Note that categories like "Mushrooms" may limit our ability later to add invividual pages index various item types, but that depends on how much is really worthwhile to many foes index. To be honest I think it would be better did the "Likes" categories mostly to edit their stats (armor/healthlearn how they work. Atm I usually just "/power) as well as Anatomy knowledge inside their relevant pages wiki spoons" for several reasons:* The stats will be duplicated between the parent pageexample, and monster pages, requiring more edits in the future (also keep in mind some of these general foes may very well appear in more zones in wiki search will give me the future, thus further increasing relevant NPCs due to the number of places we have to update them)text search.* So atm I planned just don't know what is going to make a nice little stats template with Armor/Health/Power icons.. I will edit it in be the creature pagesuse for them, but they won't work I am not at all experienced in MediaWiki so maybe I am missing something. One idea in the zone pages (longer term would be to add little icons next to the items in the table format)* Helps trim down the zones pages which may grow long "Small Talk" section, and unwieldy over time* And most importantly imho, this gives the option for people clicking those will go to reveal more at their own discretion, by following the link (ie. the further away from the main category page, showing other NPCs that like the more detailssimilar item. --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 08:44, kind of a spoiler hierarchy2 October 2014 (CDT).

<strike>psPS: Oh Isee what you did there with the '''Category:Likes'''ll try to get a nice little Armor/Health/Power template soon. Thanks for all the page, good work!</strike> DONEidea :) --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 08:50, 2 October 2014 (CDT)

==NPC Shop Icons==Hi guys. I think the basic Shop icons templating is ready for use. See [[NPC Template]] and [[Item Icons Guide]]. Many icons are reused in-game so a lot of items in shop listings should be covered. We will just add icons over time whenever the fancy arise :) I have some ideas to make it easier to create those shop listings (with a little script).. but for now that's how it works. IF you somehow want more data on the shop, msg me in-game (Gorgonzola), or post on my page, or post on the [[Talk:NPC Template]] I should see it. Currently you can see one idea for Lucky Belt is I used a ABBR tag to put the skills in the tooltip. There's always compromises to be made, I think icons make the shop list easier to scan, and is worth the extra space. Having those icons also gives us other possibilities, for example see [[Sword#Equipment]]. --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 0916:5231, 3 6 October 2014 (CDT)

==Creature Type Pages==Hi Karu, as discussed I'm wondering how to handle the creature types. (you seemed to have interest in that part of the wiki). Atm creature type more or less equals in-game Anatomy classification right? Thats probably the more logical way to go. So we have "Arthropod", "Fungoid", "Goblin", etc. First I would suggest to make new pages, reather than use the Category Page themselves. [http: Hmm//wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Arachnid Here is an example from GWW Arachnids]. Perhaps on that page you can list the Anatomy XP you wanted to? On this page we can make an automatic list with DPL tag. The ones we don't have an article yet, we can just manually list them in that page so we don't forget about it. I now realize certain creatures would do just like [[Skeleton Archer]] may GWW and use different stats depending where they spawna simple page name: "Fungoid", "Goblin", "Giant", "Plant" ,etc. So If needed later we can add the anatomy pages (the sub skills), so eg. "Dinosaur" is the creature type, and "Dinosaur Anatomy" would be a skill page (if we ever want to document these). Only too generic name I can see two solutions hereis "Plant" ("Biting Vine"s in Sun Vale). For Therese, you used '''Category: 1Plants''' (plural) if tis as the Likes category, so there is really necessary no collision there. Let me know what you think. --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 20:32, 6 October 2014 (CDT) So to clarify I think it's overkill propose to make these pages named exactly: Aberration, Arthropod, Bear and documenting for documenting's sakeBugbear, imhoCanine, which is pointlessetc. (exactly as written in the in-game anatomy sub-skills). I fixed "Dinosaurs" (Dinosaur) and "Ruminant Ungulate" (Ruminant) we can document as these didn't correspond to the stats in -game skills pane. All these pages are non-plural (unlike the body article"Likes" categories). If you're fine with that, for each zone the mob appears infeel free to go ahead with any of these pages. --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 20:45, 6 October 2014 (CDT) : I'm definitely not going went ahead and created a few pages to bother doing get a better idea of how that would work. As you mentioned that you planned to "make (anatomy) page link to the relevant creature anatomy info".. I edited a few links in alphathere. So you can see the general picture: Anatomy sub-skills table links to the creature type pages ("Aberration", and "Undead", etc). Hopefully that's what you meant. On each creature type page I'd like put a small mention of the Autopsy Kit (links back to save my sanityAnatomy page). 2) Much more reasonable imho is Those pages use DPL tag to document list the Armor/Health/Rage only currently categorized creatures. The other ones we can add manually for named creatureswhenever we feel like adding the page later (the red links can act as a todo list basically, eg. in the [[Plant]] I put one I found that I don't have time to document atm). If you have ideas for this page feel free to make something like '''Creature Type Template''' so we can decide on a structure there? --[[User:MOB infoboxGorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 15:57, 7 October 2014 (CDT) : PS: As you can see I used the in-game Anatomy sub-skills description to get a basic intro for the page. This is simpler--[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 16:00, and it's also useful, whereas documenting stats of a sickly wolf is pretty pointlesss 7 October 2014 (imhoCDT) and a waste  ==Beast Form Pages==Regarding your recent edit of our time Spider Form. Actually I think it would make sense to use "Pig Form" or maybe "Pig (ANDbeast form)". When I started editing here, personally if there was already "Cow Form", which seemed logical. But then there is "Lycanthropy" instead of "Werewolf Form"... Personally I do something I'd would prefer to have consistent "Animal Form" page names, as the Deer, Pig, Spider are too generic articles and intuitively sound like to do it well.the basic creature or type. Let me know what if we you want you can go ahead making the "xxx Form" pages and moving content there, and blank the ones behind. I know a player may /wiki spider ... In that case I would suggest to add to document every single mobthe intro of the basic creature "A player can turn into (animal), see [[animal Form]]". How's statsthat sound? --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 05:04, 7 October 2014 (CDT) :I agree that it's going to should be endless workinternally consistent, so it's only if I was going to consider the best way to do it, IMHO it would be half-done work'''Spider (Skill)'''. That way Lycanthropy and the various beast forms stay heterogenous, whereas documenting both with themselves and all the boss type creatures other battle skills. [[User:Karunama|Karunama]] ([[User talk:Karunama|talk]]) 07:14, 7 October 2014 (CDT) :: Sure, I like that. Makes sense , it is totally doable during alphaa full skill line right. So '''Spider (Skill)''' [[Cow (Skill)]], etc. Not sure wjhat you mean with Lycanthropy.Should we have '''Lycanthropy (Skill)''' or '''Werewolf (Skill)'''? i think the latter may be easier for players? --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 08:07, 7 October 2014 (CDT) :: Btw, if you blank out a page sometimes and don't know what to do with it, you can use <brcode>#REDIRECT <brnowiki>So for the general creatures I will look at the template and see that the Armor[[pagename]]</Healthnowiki></Rage is only optional so code> to make it can show only for into a redirect. (presumably that does the bosses (otherwise it will be incorrect as I explained exact same thing as certain basic monsters exist in various "strengthsMove", it is not possible to truly move a page it seems, or not obvious at all). --[[User:Gorgonzola|Gorgonzola]] ([[User talk:Gorgonzola|talk]]) 1608:09, 7 October 2014 (CDT) ::: Definitely Lycanthropy (Skill). That's how it appears in the game's skill tab, after all. [[User:Karunama|Karunama]] ([[User talk:Karunama|talk]]) 11:4502, 3 7 October 2014 (CDT)